Friday, October 21, 2011

鄭丁賢‧乳房村和蠢人村


http://opinions.sinchew-i.com/node/21351

在網上散播謠言的是壞蛋,呼應網上謠言的,則是蠢蛋。
新上榜的蠢蛋,包括了不應該愚蠢的凱里。
網上造謠,指林冠英的公子非禮女生;稍有認識的人,看了都會罵一聲“無聊加賤格”,將之當成垃圾。
這種垃圾,在網上堆積如山,一般人不會開展閱讀,否則一打開就是臭氣薰天,令人作嘔。
凱里看到了,卻視為至寶,馬上為文推特,加油加醬,連“乳房村”(kampung buah dada)都出來了。
牛津大學的品德和思想訓練,是如此撿這些資訊垃圾,用來獻寶?
作為國陣青年領袖,是如此污蔑欺負一個無辜的16歲男孩?
在網上散播謠言,進行人身攻擊,是網絡時代的流弊,也可以是廉價的政治武器。
凱里自己也曾經是受害人,網上散播他和知名女星的緋聞,以及流連夜生活場所的照片;這些都是他和諾麗結婚之後的事。
這些攻擊,自然是要破壞凱里的政治前途。他和諾麗,以及盛傳的女星,都應該感受到這種流言蜚語造成的困擾和傷害吧。
作為曾經的受害人,加上青年領袖的身份,凱里看到網上林公子的謠言,應該在第一時間站出來譴責,如果是出自內部網絡僱用兵的作品,更要制止。
凱里自己也有兩位公子,再過幾年,他不會想看到自己的孩子,被人同樣的如法炮製,成為“乳房村”的一員吧!
林公子遭受無妄之災,難免心靈受創;而今,真相大白,無須難過,就當成是上了一堂政治先修課;作為政治家族成員,要有如此心理準備和承受力。
真正受挫的,我倒覺得是凱里自己。身為一個要塑造健康形象,還在建立公信力的青年領袖,這一次的愚蠢和輕佻的行徑,已經破壞了他這些日子來的許多努力。
身為人之父,若有些許同理心,他也應該汗顏。
為了政治目的,而逞一時之快,他要付出代價。
唯一能夠彌補的做法,就是道歉;向林冠英家庭道歉,也向社會道歉。
至於那些網絡兵團,是否會吸取教訓,稍加檢點?
當然不會,他們會蠱惑下去。
網絡世界和現實世界的最大分別,在於現實中,可以將君子、小人,正常人、異常人等區分出來。網絡中,真正的身份卻隱藏或混淆了;陰謀者、幻想者、失意者、嫉妒者,都可以戴上王爾德的面具,穿起國王的新衣,踏著跳樑舞步。
若有人要相信,也要列入蠢人村之一員。(星洲日報/馬荷加尼‧作者:鄭丁賢‧《星洲日報》副總編輯)

Thursday, October 20, 2011

植建成‧小悅悅和凱蒂


http://opinions.sinchew-i.com/node/21341

一名兩歲的女童小悅悅,在中國佛山的巷口被小貨車撞倒,司機不但沒有下車,還開車輾過小童。接下的7分鐘,又有一部貨車,加上18個無動於衷的路人,視這個垂死的小生命於無物。
單從文字描述,已經讓人受不了,看過短片的人,更是煎熬不安,為之掉淚。但這種發生在城市中的冷血路人事件,不是首宗,一些國家的大城市也曾發生過,最著名的應該是1963年美國紐約的案件。
一名28歲的貌美女經理凱蒂,像往常一樣,在凌晨3時開車回到她居住的皇后區,把車停好後,她就發現被人跟蹤,凱蒂原本想走到電話亭報警,但匪徒先發難,刺了她幾刀,凱蒂的求救聲劃破夜空,住在公寓的人驚醒開燈,有人甚至喊到:“放過那女生!”匪徒嚇得逃離。
但接下來幾分鐘,公寓的燈陸陸續續又關掉了,留下受重傷的凱蒂無力地爬回公寓,匪徒見無人出現,再回來逞兇,凱蒂再叫了數聲,又重演了幾分鐘前的一幕,公寓開燈又關燈、匪徒離去又回來。凱蒂第三次被施暴後,就再也叫不出來了。
後來,記者進行調查報導,發現行凶過程約35分鐘,幾十人在窗戶內目睹了整個過程。這篇名為〈38名目擊者:凱蒂命案〉的報導在《紐約時報》登出後,引起全美嘩然,討伐聲四起,此事也震驚了心理學家,他們一直想知道這種冷漠的心態,是否是“人之常情”。
心理學家發現,讓人們對落難的人變得冷漠的主要因素,是和現場的人數有關。心理學家的實驗發現,叫一人扮演發病的癲癇病患,讓不知情、不相識的受測試者在現場,如果人數超過4人,他們大多不會採取行動,但是如果現場只有一人,85%的人會救人。
結論是:不幸事故的旁觀者越多,人就越冷漠。心理學家稱之為“責任擴散”或“旁觀者效應”:越多人目睹一起事件,個別旁觀者自覺的責任就越少。這就解釋了都市人為甚麼會比較冷漠的原因。
小悅悅和凱蒂的不幸事做,在某種程度上,可以用心理學的旁觀者效應來解釋。18名路人和38名目擊者,都不認為拯救一名垂死的人,是他的責任。
但你也很輕易地在兩案當中,找到很多本質上的區別。對小悅悅伸出援手,不需要冒生命危險的代價,但是插手救凱蒂,可能就要和刀匪肉搏了。
當然,在中國救人的“風險”很高,救人反被告的例子很多,最著名的是“彭宇案”,這名青年救了一名被車撞倒的老人,反被法庭判罰,法官的判決書說:“如果不是彭宇撞到老太太,他完全不用送她去醫院,而可以自行離去,他(救人)的行為與情理相悖”。當法官說出如此的判詞,真的是人類倫理的浩劫。
此外,出手救人的拾荒阿婆,被人冷言冷語奚落“想出名、發財了”的現象,也無法用一般的心理學來解釋了。中國人現代化、城市化的過程中,丟失了太多“惻隱之心,人皆有之”的人性,如今,被視為城市邊緣人的拾荒阿婆,也許就是不夠“社會化、城市化”,才出手救人,這是不是意味著,成為一個成功的都市人,一定要以犧牲人性做為代價?(星洲日報/言路‧作者:植建成‧媒體工作者)

林明華‧陳阿婆,請不要難過!


http://opinions.sinchew-i.com/node/21347

中國“佛山女童被輾,18路人漠視”事件繼續發酵,有網民發動人肉搜查,揪出那18個“冷血途人”;有評論感嘆道德淪喪,疾呼道德反思,如此事態發展,乃在意料之中。
令人扼腕興嘆的是,此時此刻,竟有人對唯一伸手救人的拾荒阿婆陳賢妹極盡抹黑之能事,指她“博出名”、“想炒作”,甚至有街坊見她獲頒獎金,竟酸溜溜地說她這次“發達了”。
陳阿婆或許沒有受過甚麼高深教育,身為一個拾荒老人,她乃是生活在社會最低層最弱勢的一員,但她的情操,她那“只想救人”的人性光輝,卻讓人看到了人性之美,對照於那一張張冷漠的臉孔,陳阿婆單純只想救人的行動,是那麼的令人動容,牽動你我心弦。
但救人反遭奚落,陳阿婆心裡難受,她的媳婦也為她打抱不平,感嘆“好人難做”。
是啊,輕輕一句“好人難做”,傳到千萬里之外,卻仍然讓人感到它的無比沉痛。
一個社會的價值觀,竟被嚴重扭曲至如斯地步,已經不是用可悲可嘆可以形容,而是恐怖極至,沒有人性了!
我在思考,類似小悅悅的悲劇,會不會發生在馬來西亞?如果這個悲劇是發生在這裡,我們的社會,又會如何面對?
我們的公路上,不也常常發生車禍嗎?當你目睹一起車禍發生時,你可曾馬上緊急停車,對受傷者施予援手?還是,你一次又一次的加速離開,從未想過涉及車禍者的死活?
顯然,有些人可能會用自己的理由,而選擇漠視而去,沒有一點愧疚,也絲毫沒有罪惡感。
這個社會,有人古道熱腸,有人冷血殘酷,人類的世界,的確比動物世界複雜,而人情淡薄,已是當今人類社會共同面對的嚴重問題。
無可否認,社會愈是進步,就愈是競爭;社會愈是競爭,就愈是冷漠,整個社會,也因此漸漸失去了傳統的守望相助、相濡以沫的美德。
小悅悅的事件,不是一個孤立的例子,也絕對不是一個只會發生在中國的悲劇。這樣的悲劇,也許天天都在上演,只是,因為沒有被人揭發,沒有被人放上網絡傳播,所以不為人知,也不為人所譴責,也當然不會引起社會的震撼。
傳統漸行漸遠,傳統也漸漸無聲,被顛倒了的人性價值,必須獲得彰顯。
陳阿婆,請不要難過,更不要為了那些冷言冷語而動搖,這個社會,只要還有像你這樣單純的好心人,就還有正氣,就還有希望,也還有明天!(星洲日報/雲淡風輕‧作者:林明華‧《星洲日報》執行編輯)

鄭丁賢‧換作是我,打死不跑


“換作是你,你也會跑!”
中國佛山撞倒女童的貨車司機,露面時,當眾說了這句話。
王八(不是爆粗;王八是鱉類,泛指冷血動物),這是甚麼話?換作是我,我當然不會跑;如果我跑了,我還是人嗎?
換作是你,也不會跑,更不應該跑,因為我們都是人,不是王八。
錄影畫面中,全世界人類看到貨車前輪輾過女童王悅。司機稍停下來,應該是知道撞倒人了,然而,他不但沒下車救人,還干脆踩油,讓後輪再輾過女童。
前輪輾過,還有救治的機會,後輪再輾,已是奄奄一息。
司機就這樣跑了!然後,他還大言不慚的把其他人和他歸於一類,以為大家都會和他一樣跑了。
我們不會跑。我們會馬上停車,下車察看女童,叫救傷車,或是趕緊把女童送進醫院。
我們不會計算,撞死人是賠一兩萬元,撞傷人可能要賠幾十萬元。
這不是在市場做買賣,而是關係到一個生命;只要有人性,不會要奪走別人的生命。
因為我們是人類,我們的血是熱的,不是冷的。這還未到達道德層次,無須辯論道德。
這只是最基本的人性,最平凡的良心問題。
因為人性,我們會害怕,內疚,自責;而不是把後輪再輾過去。
因為良心,我們會彌補,救人,負責;而不是逃之夭夭,一走了之。
而後面路過的18個人,見死不救,而且還振振有詞;有的說沒看到血,所以不救;也有人說,看到了血,不敢救。
都是王八,因為他們同樣是冷血類。
換作是你或我,能夠袖手旁觀,見死不救嗎?
我想到我的小外甥女。唸小學時,她看到一隻小貓被車撞了,倒在路中央,一隻母貓在旁邊喵喵哀叫,不捨得離開。
路上車如流水,隨時會再輾過小貓,也會撞到母貓。
小外甥女二話不說,直衝路上,把大人嚇著了。
只見她撿起小貓,移到路旁。見它已無氣息,跑回家裡,找來鞋盒,裝入小貓,再挖個洞埋葬。
母貓在一旁看著整個過程,直到小貓入土,才默默離開。
那只是一隻貓,她沒有袖手旁觀,換作是人,我們能夠冷漠不顧嗎?
而這18個路人,不會那麼巧合,都是全中國最冷血的路人,剛好都在這裡路過吧!
在概率學來說,他們代表一般人,而第19個出現的拾荒阿婆救人,那才是異數。
這是社會現象,不是個別案例;這是群體冷酷,不只是個體冷血。如此社會,讓人不寒而慄。
換作是我,打死不跑。這個“我”,不只是個人的我,也是社會整體的大我。
人性從我不跑昇華,文明從我不跑誕生。(星洲日報/馬荷加尼‧作者:鄭丁賢‧《星洲日報》副總編輯)

Tuesday, October 18, 2011

Rafa Sets the Record Straight


It was strange travelling up to Liverpool with the same two mates who accompanied me to many a game at Anfield (starting in our dim, distant pasts, when we were all childless and carefree and almost full of hair), only this time without a fixture taking place. (The last time we made the same journey without a game taking place was when we got to Liverpool, only to find the streets strangely deserted when walking up to Walton Breck Road; having not heard that the match had been cancelled due to Princess Diana being killed the night before).
My original aim was to spend this weekend on Merseyside, and take in the United game, followed by Rafa’s talk at the Empire on the Sunday evening. But my dad’s declining health meant that I didn’t want to be away from the hospice for more than 24 hours. Having already bought my own ticket when the ‘evening with Rafa’ was announced, the man himself later sent me two VIP passes, and it was hard to miss out on a unique night.
As I was obviously a big supporter of Rafa, many like-minded people gravitated to my work, and he still remains very popular on this site. (Just because we’ve moved on in terms of being fully behind Kenny, it doesn’t mean we have to ignore the recent past. Most intelligent fans could see through the bullshit written about Rafa, after all. Some have tried to do something similar with Kenny, and we won’t tolerate that, either. If you must criticise, stick to the facts.)
As such, quite a few of this site’s subscribers (and writers) were present, so it was nice to briefly meet most of them shortly before the event commenced. Of these, a few also had VIP tickets, which involved the chance to say hello to Rafa after the show, and get a picture taken. The only problem here was that it was past midnight, and the queues were still snaking around the corner.
The event itself was informative and entertaining, with masses of love in the room for the man on the stage. A largely scouse crowd gave Rafa a five-minute ovation when he took to the stage, and applause and laughter regularly broke out as he shared myriad anecdotes with the host, Steve Hothersall.
Rafa took the crowd on a journey from his difficult early days as a very young manager in Spain, before touching upon his first success, in getting Tenerife – with a certain Luis Garcia on loan from Barcelona – promoted to the top flight.
Then came the incredible achievements between 2001 and 2009 at Valencia and Liverpool respectively (two La Liga titles; one Uefa Cup; one FA Cup; two Champions League finals, with one obviously won, and a further semi-final; plus the highest-ever points tally – 86 – for the runners-up in the English top division).
And finally, onto the period when things didn’t go as planned, and his thoughts on why things didn’t work out.
He spoke on a couple of occasions about how well Kenny Dalglish was doing, and how the new owners seemed to be saying and doing the right things, and also included the ‘Director of Football’ (Damien Comolli) in his praise. He said that the club ‘felt right’ again, after the madness of Hicks, Gillett and Purslow. He also thanked SoS for helping rid the club of that particular pair of Americans.
Rafa’s ambition remains to return to the job at some point, but long into the future, after “Kenny has won lots of trophies and retired”. In a quiet moment, a big booming scouse voice bellowed out from the stalls, “I miss you Rafa!”, to much laughter and applause. If Kenny can return after 20 years, why can’t he?
There were tactical chalkboards, taking the audience through the changes at half-time in Istanbul (including “Djimi, go take a shower”!), with video evidence of how these alterations proved successful. He acknowledged that the Reds were also lucky, but later spoke of his frustration of 2007, when, unlike in 2005, his side deserved to win. (Funny how none of his critics, who said that he was lucky in 2005, neglect to mention that, overall, the Reds deserved to win one of the finals, and AC Milan the other. It says a lot about football that it just happened to be the ones the clubs didn’t win.)
There were charts on how successful zonal marking actually was – a case of looking at the stats, rather than taking the Andy Gray approach of overreacting to the occasional goal conceded this way, as if it was the norm, and ignoring the 100 corners which were successfully defended. (And similarly, the likes of Gray could see three man-marking goals conceded in a single game and never once say “that’s the fault of man-marking”; only the players got the blame for those errors, never the system or the manager.)
In the second half, I’m proud to say that this site’s Andrew Beasley got an unexpected mention, on account of his stats – which I circulated on Twitter some time back – about how Liverpool actually had a better points per game rate after the supposed ‘Rafa rant’ (puke) than before it. So much for that costing the Reds the title, then. Indeed, it wasn’t long after the rant that the Reds went on an incredible winning run, in what was the best few months of Rafa’s reign; four put past each of Arsenal, Chelsea, Real Madrid and Manchester United, and five past Aston Villa.
I also got a mention, halfway through the first half, in relation to the figures I produced for this site (and in Pay As You Play) on Rafa’s spending, looking purely at the players he bought and sold.
As such, I thought I’d better take a bit of time to explain what he was referring to.
While a manager’s net spend is more revealing than his gross spend – after all, if you have to sell a good player to buy another good player, you still have only one good player, despite two transactions – it’s perhaps more revealing to look only at his own purchases (and their later sell-on fees). After all, net spend often includes the unfair task of selling a predecessor’s duds.
My argument has always been that Rafa inherited a fairly strong spine (lacking a centre-forward, mind) from Gérard Houllier seven years ago, but that by the time Rafa took over, Hyypia and Hamann – two bedrocks – were in their 30s. Henchoz was also 30 (as were several squad players, including Smicer), and given that funds were tight under David Moores in comparison with the new, richer owners around the league, it didn’t leave much chance to sell Houllier’s players to raise cash in order to improve the squad.
Hyypia and Hamann were rightly kept on for a few more successful seasons, until they left on free transfers, having served with distinction. Other ageing players left quickly, often for nothing.
Then there was Harry Kewell, easily one of the club’s most talented players, but never fit, and therefore not a saleable or reliable asset; and there was also Markus Babbel, whose terrible two-year illness robbed the Reds of a great right-back, as well as a sell-on fee. Two horrific compound fractures reduced Houllier’s Djibril Cissé from a £14.2m club-record signing (roughly £30m in today’s money) to a mediocre asset at best, even if he was hardly the composed striker the Reds were crying out for. Hardly the story of a lucky manager, inheriting that lot.
Given that Houllier’s best buys tended to be older players – incredibly, in six years, the only really successful, value-for-money signing who was under 25 was Riise (and even he was very good, rather than amazing) – it meant that most were past their sell-by date (in terms of a fee to reinvest).
This meant that the younger ones who were still around in 2004, including Diouf, Diao, Traore, Cheyrou, Vignal, Biscan, Le Tallec, Sinama Pongolle, Kirkland and Baros would be sold for less than £18m combined; or just £1.8m each for those 10 players, who had cost more than twice as much just a few years earlier.
Aside from selling Steven Gerrard, who was home-grown and being courted by Chelsea, who else in the 2004 squad left to Rafa would have generated an above average fee at that time? Michael Owen, the other major asset, left on a reduced pre-Bosman fee of just £8m (£6.2m less than the Reds had committed to pay for the inferior Cissé) … but who was worth more than £8m, at a time when both Chelsea and Manchester United were paying £24m+ on several occasions?
The point Rafa was trying to make related to how much his own signings had, on average, increased in value.
Since being sacked, several more of his signings have been sold; this does not go towards Rafa’s ‘net spend’ figure, which by conventional measures ends the moment a manager is no longer in the job – but it does show how shrewdly he invested overall.
Like any managers he had his fair share of flops, but rarely did he lose too much money on a player (just £3m was lost on the quickly-offloaded Robbie Keane, for example, who failed to gel with Torres; meaning that the one and only exception will be Aquilani, even if he is now playing on loan for the Italian champions. Aquilani may end up being the only player that Rafa loses more than £7m on. Glen Johnson is the next-likeliest, but has been successful when fit, and only recently turned 27.)
By contrast, big profits were made on Xabi Alonso and, seven months after the manager had cleared his desk, Fernando Torres. Javier Mascherano was fairly expensive to start with, but held his value and moved to the best club team in the world.
A profit was made on Yossi Benayoun, even though he was 27 when bought and 30 when sold. Pepe Reina was the subject of a £20m bid from Arsenal last summer, but thankfully he is still a Red. Lucas Leiva, Martin Skrtel and Daniel Agger have all proved quality additions, with two of the three (Agger and Lucas) in the best current XI, and still only in their mid-20s.
Of Rafa’s best buys, only Kuyt is now too old to recoup a major fee, although like Hyypia and Hamann, he’s been worth keeping into his 30s. Interestingly, Rafa noted that in 2006 he had the choice between Kuyt (£9m) and Daniel Alves (c.£13m), and at the time saw the need for a striker as greatest; but even though both players were relatively cheap considering their quality, Liverpool, without the riches of Chelsea and Man United, couldn’t afford both. It was a case of constantly compromising, whilst being expected by unrealistic critics to win the title.
Profits were also made on Arbeloa, Ngog, Ayala, Insua, Crouch, Sissoko, Mavinga and Bellamy, as well as Leto, who failed to get a work permit. A profit was also made on the underrated (if admittedly unspectacular, and decidedly moody) Voronin, although it’s fairly easy to make a couple of million on a free transfer.
Based purely on the time since Rafa left the club, and therefore excluding those already earmarked for an exit while he was still in charge, an incredible £90m+ has been raised by the sale of a handful of his purchases (for which, roughly £55m was originally spent).
Of Rafa’s signings (and in total contrast to those of Roy Hodgson), quite a few still remain, even after two big overhauls seen since the summer of 2010, which has seen 15 new players arrive.
Still present are Reina, Johnson, Agger, Kuyt, Lucas, Skrtel, Maxi, Shelvey, the young Hungarian goalkeeper Gulacsi, plus teenagers like Sterling, Wisdom and Suso, who surely have very bright futures in the game.
At least five of those are still first XI players, and the total fees paid for the lot (excluding the youngsters) is more-or-less £50m; or exactly what Liverpool received for Fernando Torres in January. And if they were all sold today, they’d fetch around £70m. (More, if Agger could stay fit.)
While Hodgson had to operate on a tight budget, his seven signings still lost the club money, and in an incredibly short space of time at that. His one success – Meireles – was sold for just a fraction more than what was paid. Joe Cole is out on loan, as any transfer value dwindles due to age (even though he’s doing well in France, albeit with Liverpool subsidising his wages), while fellow free transfer Fabio Aurelio’s worsening injuries have shown why he wasn’t offered a new contract by Rafa, despite the player’s undoubted talent and the manager’s clear fondness for him. Brad Jones represents £2.3m that won’t be recouped. Danny Wilson is young, and has time to prove himself, but is not really progressing thus far. And the dreaded pair of Poulsen and Konchesky cost almost £10m combined, and left for about a third of that amount.
With a profit of just half a million pounds made on Meireles, the rest represent a loss of at least ten times that amount.
Looking back to 2004, Rafa had a fairly similar amount to spend, but as well as two very cheap flops who were later sold for what they cost (Josemi and Nunez), he bought Luis Garcia and Xabi Alonso. So while Hodgson’s purchases added nothing new or special to the side he inherited – and therefore contributed to his own struggles – Rafa brought in two game-changers, who scored and created plenty of goals, and helped the Reds win trophies.
(This is not designed to denigrate Hodgson, merely to show the comparison between a manager who succeeded in many areas but was lambasted by the press, with one who, despite difficult circumstances, failed to get things right from the start, and was excused for those failings. Ultimately, even in Rafa’s one bad season, the team won a greater percentage of games, scored a lot more goals and had a far better goal difference than we saw in those mad six months last season. And while Rafa noted that Hodgson claimed he had to put up with Gillett and Hicks for three months – fair point – Rafa had to put up with them for threeyears.)
So anyway, all of that might better explain the subject Rafa briefly touched upon, but the nuances of which might have been beyond someone speaking in his second language, to a crowded auditorium.
After the show I stopped by to say hello, and the first thing he did was ask how my dad was doing. When we got onto football, he tried to explain what he was getting at when discussing my figures, and therefore maybe the previous few paragraphs will help clarify his point for anyone who was there!
You may have read other reviews of the event by now, so I won’t go into any more detail. Suffice it to say that the evening was a big success, judging by the reaction of the audience and the fact that the venue was absolutely heaving.
Hopefully Rafa will find a job where the club is looking to buy players rather than offload them (Liverpool under Gillett and Hicks, and Inter Milan, who became a selling club as soon as Mourinho, who’d spent heavily to bring massive success, moved on; Jose providing the boom, Rafa inheriting the bust. Still, he did add the World Club Championship and Italian Super Cup during a brief stay, and had taken them into the knockout stage of the Champions League with a creaking team averaging over 30 years old.)
For me, Rafa remains an important part of Liverpool’s past, and yet for all that I celebrate (and proudly defend) that, I don’t go around trying to imagine him as part of the club’s future. If he returns at some stage, of course I’d welcome it (if the circumstances were right), but I’m concentrating on backing the current regime to succeed. As, indeed, he is.
That said, in some ways Rafa remains current. As mentioned, a fair few of his players remain in the side – and so every week we discuss them – and hardly a week goes by when he isn’t unfairly sniped at in the papers. He’ll move on to other jobs, but his wife Montse’s Foundation – for whom the event was organised – will continue to raise funds for the charities of Liverpool. And that, like so many things with the Benítezes, is to be applauded.
Bald, ‘starry-eyed blogger’ with ‘fat Spanish waiter’ (© people who don’t like us)